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Louis Cyphre is a pretty bad alias for god 'ol Lucy, but I still think Louisa Ferre is way worse

Noice. This is the SMT II of videos about SMT II.

Cerberus is the realest of G's. Truly the greatest character in the series

ok after finally deciding to finish watching this completely, I gotta say the full circle moment with Minami Sawa at the ending really surprised me... definitely a very cleverly written story after all! as always, great video Marsh !

Man what a watch. What a fucking game. I hope to get to play this myself sometime soon. They just don't make games like this anymore.

I'm surprised you didn't mention how Tetraja spell can nullify Energy Drain for the rest of the fight, other than that this is an amazing video! I wonder what the series would've looked like if the Telenet version was the successful one.

NDDS and DDS novels are far better than SMT games. Too bad it wasn't translated.

Holy shit what a whiner lmao. Actually unwatchable vid.

That disclaimer screen kind of looks like Persona 5 calling card.

It would be funny if someone had told Marsh that the reason Miko is down there is because she has... *cough* relationship *cough* issues with Byakuren.

I do kinda like how in Canon of Vengeance you get NPC dialogue explaining that Dazai _somehow_ managed to do Chiyoda without you. Like he has this whole huge jump and you only hear about it secondhand

You're the most sincere Atlus fan, Marsh. We don't deserve you ❤

You have to be a major fucking retard to run with the narrative that OG SMT V had a “mixed” reception to anyone other than the most vocal of minorities. Fuck off

The way Lucifer talks to Satan sounds like he betrayed him for YHWH.

Funny thing about them adding all the new Magatsuhi skills, I just straight up didn't use that shit. I didn't even get the achievement for using them 20 times. Because regenerating MP every single turn was just so useful. I think I used some nuke Magatsuhi skill twice on bosses to ensure I take them down on that turn, and the auto crit maybe 4 times in early game.

ABSOLUTE CINEMA

Hey Marsh, huge fan. Watched this video when it came out and wanted to let you know that it's the most consistent sleep aid ever, and that sounds rude but I mean it with the utmost kindness. Like four times this week I've skipped to the Last Bible Special section of this video, turned my screen off and fallen asleep within five minutes. I don't know what it is about that dogshit game that works on me but it's unmatched. Love this video on these two stupid games, I remember it carrying me through some horrible shifts at my last job (alongside a lot of your other videos).

Great video as always! I was really interested to see what they did with the story as it was my biggest let down of the original SMTV, but I am really bummed it isn't integrated. It doesn't seem like there's much of a point to play Creation if Vengeance does pretty much everything better. Vengeance having a lack of a neutral is also kind of a bummer; do Nuwa/Yakumo even exist or show up?

I took Dazai's edgelord transformation a bit better in CoV. Seemed more to be Masteema's doing than his. Still think the kid's an annoying twerp, but it was more believable this time.

Just finished a back to back rilun of of both CoC and CoV. Played both for the first time through. And I have to say the Canon of Vengeance really feels like Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood in a lot of ways. The story for CoV was better, but I'd still say to people to play CoC first to get an idea of 'how the story is supposed to go'. Enjoying CoV, like FMA:B, seems predicated on having experienced the original story. You miss out on a few things in Vengeance(like Abdiel's fall and Yakumo's backstory) that are covered in the other route.

I feel like a huge missed opportunity would have been since you can enlist the Demi-Fiend as a party member (& he's still hard to fight) it would have been great to reward players with a big twist with the fight against Lucifer if he would be in your party. Have something be drastically different & even lead to a third hidden ending. Hell, it would have been great to even have Stephen involved. Sadly, they just phoned it in.

I like how they've retained Lucifer's role in the plot and integrated him in the new story, never letting the player off the hook until they decide how to best deal with the Mandala System (which is Nahobino's true purpose for existing). What I disliked was the fact that CoV had only 2 endings, none of which jives very well with the established narrative points - both Tao and Yoko had been more or less on the side of factions that engaged in mass murders and destruction. Kei himself experienced personal loss throughout the ordeal. For me, the "Vengeance" part would have been a true neutral ending, one in which you eliminate both of them and then go on to recreate the world all by yourself.

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I think I agree with the thoughts about the environments. The sand wasn't fun to explore, and the whole world being deserted while being told that massive wars are raging gave me a weird feeling of isolation or separation from the plot, like Neo stuck in that looping subway station.

I liked that we got human party. O.G. V felt like i was on my own. What i like a out this new game is that its up to you to customize your playthrough. I for one want to not use fusion and only recruit demons that i help in a quest and they ask me to come with them. It makes the gameplay more limited. If anything, i am thinking of going back to V and not VV.

I suppose I don't mind rocking the same team of demons the whole game as long as you put in the effort to make them work. I definitely put in about 200 hours refusing, and rebuying demons to farm essences to fine-tune the demons I like. I feel like this problem was more appearant in Nocturne though since you could get Daisojou at around the mid 30s and literally never take him off your team because of how hard they pushed the Fiend demons.

Wait you didn't talk abt Nuwa and Yakumo lmao, they're screwed either way in both routes

As someone who bought 5 when it first came out, I fucking hate Vengance. When it was announced i was somewhat hopeful it would be treated like an expansion and I'd be able to get it without having to buy an entirely new game and lose all my progress. Hearing about all the changes made me doubt they'd do that (I also knew deep down that wouldn't be the case because of P5R) because it seems like they were changing a lot. THEN I FOUND OUT ALL THE NEW SHIT IS IN AN ENTIRELY SEPERATE CAMPAIGN SO THIS COULD HAVE BEEN AN EXPANSION AND BALANCE PATHC, FUCK YOU ATLUS. The save data bonuses if you get V on switch feel like such a slap in the face, it's literally just stat boosters and your active party and only your active party gets added to the compendium. That's so insulting to people who bought vanilla. Now I know not to buy anything ATlus puts out cause fuck them.

Yoko and Tao arguments are surprisingly good. I love the subtle hesitation to offend the other when they speak up their thinkpiece, because they're strangers and later because they're friends.

What you don’t know or haven’t said yet is the combo options you get from using demons like Loa in the end game: 11:35

I think on the note of fusion I really do hope they find a way to balance this stuff out because I think demon haunts are a great idea but I think they should either limit the amount of stat upgrades per demons or outright get rid of them maybe they can have demons exclusively give out items. Maybe have them give out the stat boosting items but make it so you can only get them from the haunts instead of scattered throughout the world idk I’m just spit balling some ideas maybe the best choice is probably the removal of stat booster in general. I think fusion is a core of the series and it be a bit of a shame to have its importance scaled back.

Next challenge: jump into the IMAGINE rendition of Tokyo Millenium through a fan server

They truly are the kings of re-releases, SMT5 will the last Atlus-created game that I buy on initial release. Having to buy re-releases would hurt a lot less if I only pay like a fraction of the price.

A bit late. But the right term to explain Touhou references (alongside Jojo) being everywhere, is. "Everything is a _____ reference". (Give/take, Touhou, or their spiritual counterparts...)

I’ll still be salty over the lack of “buildup” that led to Dazai’s change. In my opinion, characterization was really not at it with this game. And the pacing of it didn’t help that section in accordance with that, but they delivered with that gameplay.

I'm just happy to have it on pc. Lmao hope you get a review copy for metaphor.

35:25 Pretty much the same thing happens in neutral ending of smt iv, with Masakado. But you won't talk about it, because every redditor treats that slop like the best thing ever created.

Nah brotha inflated my butt those stats boost thru the story progress bench talk were needed. If you're a hardcore SMT fan like I am, you'd play the game in Hard mode and try to unlock Godborn or fight Demifiend. Try fighting Satan in Godborn Hard Mode, and you'll see those Stats boost each time that were 3+ were needed for sure.